• ArchRecord@lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    Because, on average, black people are more economically disadvantaged than white people.

    Choosing to explicitly buy from black farmers will, on average, tend to support those with the least financial means out of the general population of farmers, whereas choosing to explicitly buy from white farmers will, on average, tend to support those who are already more financially advantaged.

    One side is directly choosing to help those most likely to be economically disadvantaged, the other would be explicitly ignoring those with the least means in order to help those who already have the most, thus the situations are not quite comparable.

    I personally would prefer an index that directly assessed farmers based on overall wealth to determine who you should buy from, but because that’s extraordinarily difficult to constantly update & maintain, verify, etc, it can just be easier to divide among racial lines since that still tends to produce a grouping that is relatively similar.

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      10 hours ago

      If the concern is economic disadvantages, shouldn’t the selectivity be based on income and net worth instead of skin color? Maybe selling products from poor and independent farmers. A portion of every race is economically disadvantaged.

      Edit: I really appreciate your response. I think you described the issue really well.

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        9 hours ago

        shouldn’t the selectivity be based on income and net worth instead of skin color?

        We should already be taxing proportional to income, and in the 60s when Affirmative Action was implemented, we were.

        But the problem isn’t just that there is a lower class at all, the problem is that the lower class is disproportionately filled with black people and minorities as a direct result of racism.

        If you think of it like a footrace, we ran the first half of the race giving black people a straight up disadvantage for no other reason than the color of their skin. Now most of the people in the back of the pack are black. We should already be helping all people in back to catch up to the rest of the pack, but this still means black people are disproportionately in the back as a direct result of that initial disadvantage. We could ignore it, and say that after another 300-400 years of equality, maybe things will even out on their own, but in the meantime you have a bunch of people who are living in poverty and dying, and we can scientifically say for an absolute fact that it’s a direct result of historical disadvantages targeting their ancestors based on race.

        It’s inhumane to look those people in the eye and say, “tough luck, we’d help, but we decided we don’t do racism anymore.”

        • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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          6 hours ago

          So by buying milk from black farmers, you will help:

          • many poor black people
          • some rich black people

          Whereas by buying milk from poor farmers, you will help:

          • many poor black people
          • some poor white people

          How exactly is the former better than the latter?

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            5 hours ago

            Both are good. Each behaviour is a response to a different problem. Refer again to my footrace analogy.