Its even worse when you force Firefox to use wayland its icon doesn’t even show.

Edit: Oh since everyone now is confused; I only have the flatpak version of Firefox installed yet it doesn’t use the pinned icon and doesn’t even use the firefox icon under wayland at all.

  • halfempty@kbin.social
    2·
    1 year ago

    I never intend to use a flatpak or snap, and avoid them like the plague. The whole concept is incredibly ugly to me, and wasteful of computer resources.

    • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
      2·
      1 year ago

      Yesterday I freed up 6GB of diskspace by uninstalling a single flatpak app and running

      flatpak uninstall --unused

      Somehow flatpak had grown to fill the disk over the years, my installation is about 5 years old, and I have only used flatpak very sparingly.

    • Ibaudia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      I don’t really understand why you would do anything other than native install unless you really, really need the performance.

      Edit: 5 months later and I recognize this was a shit take.

    • BlueBockser@programming.dev
      01·
      1 year ago

      The whole concept is incredibly ugly

      Depends on the viewpoint. As a software consumer, sure. As a software producer though, not having to deal with with tons of different packaging formats and repositories for different distributions and versions is a blessing.

      • Square Singer@feddit.de
        11·
        1 year ago

        It wastes resources on the consumer side to free up resources on the developer side, allowing for more time spent on improving the software instead of worrying about millions of different system setup combinations.

        • BlueBockser@programming.dev
          01·
          1 year ago

          You aren’t owed a native package for whatever OS you’re using. In fact, you should be thankful that flatpak exists because the most common alternative is piping wget into shell.

          And if you care so much about security, just build your stuff from source. Whether flatpak or apt, at some point you will run third-party code.

  • voxel@sopuli.xyz
    2·
    1 year ago

    Just don’t use flatpaks… it’s a miserable experience all around
    (and snaps are somehow even worse)

        • xyz@lemmus.orgEnglish
          02·
          1 year ago

          Yes. I do have some applications installed as flatpak. What’s the problem?

          • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
            21·
            1 year ago

            That’s the whole problem, don’t use flatpak. It’s the worst way of solving a problem that’s already solved.

              • orcrist@lemm.ee
                1·
                1 year ago

                Package managers like apt or rpmn(or whatever for your distro) are the standard way to install software. If there’s a good reason to avoid them, OK, but no good reason was stated here.

              • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
                0·
                1 year ago

                Basically you install the application inside a little OS with dependencies each time you install a flatpak, that OS is rarely updated with security patches and most of the time has full access to the host OS. https://flatkill.org/

                This is a lazy and insecure way of distributing applications with no real benefits.

                • Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  Exactly. The QA of flatpaks is done in “trust me bro” framework. You can just go back to windows at this point.

                  If I install a package on my distro I know it went through a shitload of testing and I can be sure I am not installing some crap on my system.

            • BlueBockser@programming.dev
              01·
              1 year ago
              • What problem?
              • How is it already solved?

              This comment chain feels like talking to a brick wall. It’s just “don’t use flatpak” over and over again but with different words.

                • hubobes@sh.itjust.works
                  0·
                  1 year ago

                  Almost all popular applications on flathub come with filesystem=host, filesystem=home or device=all permissions

                  So if I checked the permissions with flatseal and that statement isn’t true for any of my flatpacks…where do we go from here?

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Haven’t had this issue on Gnome, might be a KDE specific issue. I really don’t use KDE much except on my Steam Deck so I haven’t encountered it very often.

  • darcy@sh.itjust.works
    01·
    1 year ago

    the only reason to use flatpaks is if your system doesnt come with a good package manager and repositories (pacman+aur, nix, etc), and dont want to build from source.

    snaps, on the other hand, should be avoided at all costs imo.