• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      11 months ago

      It’s true, they can’t. Well, it’s ‘can’t because of the firewall’ and also ‘won’t because they’ll get disappeared’

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      11 months ago

      I need to find that copypasta again

      ATTENTION CITIZEN! 市民请注意! This is the Central Intelligentsia of the Chinese Communist Party. () 您的 Internet 浏览器历史记录和活动引起了我们的注意 因此,您的个人资料中的 15 ( -15 Social Credits) 个社会积分将打折。Your offspring played online video game past allowed threshold. 您的后代玩在线视频游戏超过了允许的阈值。 DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN! 不要再这样做! If you not hesitate, more Social Credits ( – Social Credits )will be subtracted from your profile, resulting in the subtraction of ration supplies. (由人民供应部重新分配 CCP) You’ll also be sent into a re-education camp in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Zone. 如果您毫不犹豫,更多的社会信用将从您的个人资料中打折,从而导致口粮供应减少。 您还将被送到新疆维吾尔自治区的再教育营。 为党争光! Glory to the PRC!

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        11 months ago

        I doubt there are many Chinese people here. It’s difficult to access sites like this without a VPN, which is illegal to have without government approval. Moreover, the vast majority of people in China don’t know VPNs exist and it’s illegal to spread information about VPNs on social media like Wechat.

        If anyone on Lemmy is Chinese, it’s likely they are working directly for the government or some SOE. I assume there will be people here from CGTN, China Daily, et al., but the platform isn’t big enough yet.

        When I worked at China Daily, my friend ran the social media accounts, which meant he had a special VPN at the office, or used a specific computer in the newsroom, probably controlled and monitored by admins. My office computer had no VPN, so I couldn’t access anything like Twitter or Reddit.

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          11 months ago

          there could be people using Tor that wants to spread news into outer world… Or people who was in china but not anymore

          But probably not in lemmy.

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    Well, I’m from a neighboring country (Vietnam). We have the CVP. I immigrated here a bit over a decade ago to start a business. I do speak and read Vietnamese, but poorly. It’s not 100% on topic, but I can share my experience for what it’s worth, in case you don’t get tons of replies from our Chinese colleagues.

    In practice, most of my interactions with government bodies have been positive. They’ve helped me figure out the tax system, granted me legal status and various licenses here, some tax cuts, and so on. I got married at a People’s Committee (UBNQ), which is sort of our equivalent to a town hall.

    At the start, most other non-nationals I knew told me it was impossible to do anything legally (full stop), or without constantly paying bribes. I ignored them, filled out forms and submitted them without ‘extra fees’, everything worked out just fine. So I mostly ignore “what people say” about bureaucratic processes, and just call my lawyer for advice – they usually tell a very different story.

    It’s not a carefree paradise, we’re a developing nation and life has it’s difficulties. However on a daily basis, my main concerns are traffic, workplace politics, air pollution, and occasionally neighbors singing karaoke. Top things I struggle with on longer timescales are things like home ownership, maintaining my health, and planning for retirement. I live in a slum, but it’s safe and people seem “big picture” fairly happy and decent. Except for one mean lady in the market who gossips all day – there’s a good term in Vietnamese for this kind of person that roughly translates to “many stories”.

    Oh I also have to mention the big red propaganda posters! Most of them say things like “don’t do drugs, kids”, “don’t drink and drive”, and “try to eat less sugar / salt”. Or “don’t spit in public, that’s gross”. A few pertain to upcoming national holidays or anniversaries of historical events too. They’re sort of like the “public service messages” we used to get in Canada, except with nicer artwork. Also if we’re being honest, I probably should eat less salt.

    So that’s a slice of my life. My thoughts on the CVP remain moderately positive, but I’m not particularly political – this describes most people I know here. I suspect it’s a lot more ordinary than what you might think from all the angry politics online. I imagine it’s similar with my Chinese colleagues (my main client is a Chinese company), but don’t really know since we really only talk about work.