I have tried on several occasions to like GrapheneOS. But every time I install it on my Pixel 7, basic functionality breaks. Things like receiving regular phone calls, as in people calling my number using a normal phone. GrapheneOS will sometimes not even ring and immediately display a notification saying “Missed call”. If my phone cannot be used as a … phone, what good is is?

I want to de-google but i don’t own a pixel. I gotta wait till i can grab a used one from 2nd hand market.

You can change the icons with a different launcher. Try Lawnchair.

I think it’s pretty good, although I did install the isolated GCam but I wouldn’t with another chance.

I hear battery is better but I can’t confirm.

I haven’t used the sandboxed services other than the isolated GCam but that worked great.

I’ve used Graphene for years now and I’ve loved it!

I use magic earth for maps. It lacks in a lot of ways but is a usable map and navigation system. I like the nav and some of the features bit has (safety alerts, reported police) but the map detail kind of sucks. You zoom in and not every street name is shown. But try it and see if it works for you.

Battery life will be better, and by how much depends on your setup and usage. For instance, I have play services installed, which does eat some battery. But I also turn off location, Bluetooth, mic, camera and sometimes WiFi. I only turn services on when I want to use them. That saves battery. So expect good battery life, but don’t expect any miracles.

So many people say to isolate google play services in another profile, but I have not seen anything quantifying the amount of attack surface reduction or what benefit this gives in terms of anonymity or security. Google play services includes Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM) which is what enables most apps to give timely notifications. There are alternatives like ntfy, but they require some understanding of how to set them up, and tinkering.

Finally, multiple profiles is useful for the most security conscious but for the typical user I do not believe its very useful. One thing I noticed is notifications are not consisently reliable, so setting up a “Facebook” profile does isolate you from the app but then you may miss notifications. You also have to type your password for every profile switch.

For what it’s worth, is there a way to still connect to my vehicle, at least for music? I’m running Sync 3.

• You can change the default icons color (black and gray-ish in the image) or is based on the wallpaper

Sort of. There’s a selectable “highlight color” that sets the vibe for the phone. I enable the feature that makes it pick a prominent color from my current phone background image, and I find it really nice.

• The camera app is good. Not going to make professional pics or videos but I still want to use it to take pics and a good quality is important. Tried their camera on a phone and the bottom menu to switch mode (picture/video/night mode/etc) was buggy

The camera app is the least buggy, and fastest to load, that I’ve had on Android in a long time. The picture quality is fine. The features are pretty standard - nothing fancy.

• Battery life is better/worse than stock Android (if anyone tried that)

My battery life on GrapheneOS is waaaay better. I assume this is thanks to GrapheneOS having great defaults for restricting apps from running in the background without explicitly getting my permission.

• How the sandboxed play services work

I have more idea than a lot of folks, but I’m not in the headspace to articulate that today, sorry. Fundamentally, it just dumps the “phone home to Google” calls into nowhere, while telling (lying to) the app that the call was a success. Annecdotaly, this works perfectly for 80% of apps I care about, including my bank app.

• Anything else that I should know about. Some people say it’s good, some it’s bad so I’m curious to know.

Profiles were still clumsy last time I used them, and overkill for most users. In my informed non-expert opinion, many folks underestimate how much the default permissions scheme in GrapheneOS protects them without enabling profiles. That said, if I absolutely had to use a work nanny app with extensive permissions, I would enable profiles for that, if I was somehow absolutely unable to buy a dedicated separate phone to install it on. Otherwise, I think profiles cause a lot of folks to give up on running GrapheneOS, in cases where they would have been fine without profiles.

Try Magic Earth for a maps app.

1. Can’t change the default icons on the default launcher. I think custom launchers may be able to.
2. I use Open Camera whose quality I would say is fine for my purposes (no kind of professional photography, just taking pics for record-keeping, to show people things, etc)
3. Battery life is way better than stock Android IME. It makes sense cause stock GrapheneOS is so debloated and isn’t running all these spyware services in the background.
4. You go to the app called “App Store” (preinstalled), download Google Play, then you use it like a normal Google Play app. Very user-friendly.

Been exclusively using GrapheneOS for ages, never had any problems. It’s very easy to install (especially now they have a WebUSB installer) and even easier to use.

I used GOS for about a year and a half, it’s pretty great. Tbh I didn’t feel I was really losing anything from the standard Android experience, but of course gaining more privacy and security.

Sandboxed Play Services works great. The only downside is you still need a Google account to use it, even if you only use the account for that purpose. And Google has really clamped down on not letting you create an account without providing a phone number.

But overall I definitely recommend GOS.

• You can change the default app icons easily. The Accrescent store that can be downloaded from the gOS store even have some icon packs that are FOSS.
• You can download the Pixel Camera from the App Store. I would keep it without Network access and remove the meta data with ExitEraser depending of where I am posting those pictures.
• Battery seems the same but you won’t have access to Adaptive Charging (when your phone is plugged in it tries to keep your phone without reaching 100% to improve battery life).
• You won’t be able to tap cards with your phone unless your bank app provides it. Google Wallet doesn’t and won’t work.
• I wasn’t able to get Android Auto to work at all.
• You will need to be used to apps not working properly and testing the compatibility modes, specially if they use the location services.

I don’t know if you can change the icon color, I didn’t try. I have a launcher I like so I immediately switched to that and it let’s me use any icons I want.

I have not had any camera issues on mine, 6a

I never used the stock os or sandboxed play services so I can’t help there.

I use Organic Maps and am fine with it, but mostly I use paper maps. My need for live mapping is very limited. You might want to try GMaps WV https://f-droid.org/packages/us.spotco.maps/

What it is GMaps WV is a WebView wrapper for using Google Maps without exposing your device. more info, including limitations Here

Overall I am happy with GrapheneOS, no issues.

I’m a photographer and don’t find the stock GOS camera to be good enough. I use BigKaka’s GCAM mod which is Google’s camera with even more features. It doesn’t require internet access and everything works in version 9.2 on my Pixel 8. It doesn’t require google photos like the stock GCam.

U can change icons etc by installing different launcher fdroid has a bunch take a look through to find one u like.

There are a few apps that wont work amazon prime is one. My banking apps work but some people have had issues. Overall ive had no issues that i couldnt solve with dr gpt. Would reccommend.

Batter was better. Like by a lot. It became normal when I installed the google play sandbox.