• GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Bro what!! Liberalism is literally considered a left wing ideology by political scientists. It doesn’t matter what you think. You didn’t create this stuff.

    Social democrats and social liberals are all left wing because these groups advocate for more government intervention which right wingers vehemently oppose. Do you think that the political spectrum only involves markets?

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      18 days ago

      Government intervention isn’t what separates left and right. The Nazis were far-right but had lots of government intervention. According to yourself, left and right is about socioeconomic equality. This includes Syndicalism, Anarchism, and Socialism/Communism, all with varying degrees of government.

      Explain how Capitalism is Left Wing.

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        18 days ago

        Of course, that’s not the only thing lmao. You’re being intentionally obtuse. Nazis deliberately put power into the hands of the government as an oppressive tactic. Not to protect the working class.

        Also, i said left wing broadly speaking involves socioeconomic equality. There are other things like support for social justice and human rights, anti-imperialism and internationalism, desire for systemic change, secularism, opposition to traditional hierarchies, etc. Are you then going to tell me that these characteristics i have outlined are right wing? Or that they are only achievable by being Marxist or Anarchist?

        You and every other Marxist in here is a radical leftist. Why can’t you accept that fact?

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          There are other things like support for social justice and human rights, anti-imperialism and internationalism, desire for systemic change, secularism, opposition to traditional hierarchies, etc

          Social Justice and Human Rights are just generally good things, grouping them in with left and right just obscures your actual political stances.

          Anti-Imperialism must be socialist in nature, at scale. There can be national liberatory movements from Capitalists against international Capitalists, yes, but anti-imperialism cannot be liberal within the Imperial Core.

          Secularism isn’t really political, and desire for systemic change is vague enough to not be a point.

          Opposition to traditional hierarchies cannot be found within Capitalism.

          There you go, answered.