• crusa187@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Fuck Israel for refusing to stop slaughtering Palestinian civilians and forcing this escalation.

    And especially fuck the US for claiming for a year now to be working tirelessly towards a ceasefire, yet sending 10s of billions of money and bombs to Israel as a reward for the continued slaughter.

    Disgusting land grabbers.

  • NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Iran’s IRGC say attack on Israel response to killing of Nasrallah

    Iran’s Fars news agency is reporting that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said the missile attack under way on Israel is in response to the killing of Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah last week as well as that of the Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh earlier this year.

    “In response to the martyrdom of Ismail Haniyeh, Hassan Nasrallah and (IRGC Guards commander) Nilforoshan, we targeted the heart of the occupied territories,” the IRGC said in a statement.

    So seems like Iran intends this to be a one and done response for everything Israel has done the last few months.

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      2 months ago

      So seems like Iran intends this to be a one and done response for everything Israel has done the last few months.

      i.e. “Please don’t escalate this any further. We prefer this level of escalation and no more.”

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, that’s been Iran’s position for a while. They don’t strike first, but they’ll return fire.

        They do arm plenty of proxy groups, though.

        • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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          2 months ago

          … Yeah. Iran “doesn’t strike first”. They just back terrorist groups with funding, supplies, and planning so that they can strike instead.

          Please do yourself a favor and actually educate yourself on the clusterfuck that is the middle east rather than just parroting whatever a twitch streamer tells you. This has been going in cycles for decades.

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              2 months ago

              Well. The current conflict with Israel only really goes back about 80-ish years. And there are strong arguments that the current iranian proxy wars are a different conflict with different root causes but… yeah.

              The region itself? Most of that goes back to when The West decided to redraw borders with no real logic other than guaranteeing cyclic wars of ethnic cleansing between warlord. I want to say that is more 150-ish years, but I genuinely forget. So it very well could be centuries in that regard.

              But the way to think of it? The former is why EVERYONE hates Israel. The latter is why nobody is actually interested in helping the Palestinians and just view them as a way to bleed IDF resources and give the government rope to hang themselves with.

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                2 months ago

                I would say the current cycle of violence can be said to have begun after WWI and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. But there have been plenty more cycles of sectarian and tribal violence in the region over the centuries.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      So seems like Iran intends this to be a one and done response for everything Israel has done the last few months.

      I think it’s highly unlikely that Israel will agree on that one. This may escalate and quickly.

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      2 months ago

      Let’s just say a limited attack by Iran would be exactly what Netanjahu could wish for, to keep the war going and secure more support from the US. So this could be the start of another 30 year war in the middle east that draws in US ground troops at some point.

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      2 months ago

      My guess is it depends on the damage this attack will cause. If the missiles are all shot down or hit desert, it will be some punitive F-35 strike on an Iranian airfield somewhere. But if there’s significant damage and casualties it could escalate.

      I don’t think Iran is going to risk all out war with Israel and the US. I suspect they expect most of their missiles (like the drones) to be shot down. Perhaps that’s wishful thinking though…

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      2 months ago

      Zionism has been an ongoing catastrophe for at least 75 years.

      These missiles will be shot down but used as an excuse for further genocide, theft, etc.

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      2 months ago

      Localized slaughter and limited intervention. Same as it has been for literally decades at this point.

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    2 months ago

    If your imperial news is based on “israeli military says”, then it’s time to find a better source.

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    2 months ago

    The BBC shows video of missiles over Tel Aviv, but at this point 'll wait for confirmation from literally anyone else before I believe the IDF’s claim that they’re from Iran.

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    BBC: No reports of damage or casualties so far. Missile attacks were on both Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

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      BBC: “celebratory gunfire” in Beiruit.

      What a fucked up part of the world.

      Edit: the celebratory part isn’t fucked up. The doing it by shooting guns in the air is.

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        I mean I get where you’re coming from but you can’t honestly expect the people of Lebanon to be sympathetic to the Israeli’s given the events of the past 2 weeks.

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          2 months ago

          Hezbollah have had this coming, they fired rockets at Israel on October 8th. So not because of what Israel was doing to the Palestinians, but in support of what Hamas did on October 7th.

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            The moment the first news dropped on October 7 it was clear Israel was to retaliate with a bloodbath and they started bombing Gaza the same evening. If Hezbollahs goal at the time was to make use of the situation, they would have went for an all out attack while IDF was in disarray.

            The goal was to increase the pressure on Israel for reaching a cease-fire agreement through keeping their northern settlers out of their settlements, rendering the region economically inactive and the settlers angry at their government.

            It seems like no one anticipated this to go into a yearlong war. Initially Hamas seemed to have aimed to reach a ceasefire quickly through a hostage exchange deal, but Israel put genocide over having their hostages return alive.