When I read about Overture Maps like a year or 2 ago, it seemed to me that basically they were going to create a whole new thing from scratch.
Let’s be honest, with enough resources, it’s easy to see that they could pull off some kind of OpenStreetMap 2.0, where all the issues from OSM are modernised and cleaned up.
What’s really going on? Are we getting something soon from these people? What’s the relationship with them?
On their website, they say “coming this fall”. Are you excited? Scared? What should I think?
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looks like just big tech stealing our community work for free
It doesn’t actually matter too much. They use mostly our data, so legally I think it’s ODBL too, and we can import anything genuinely useful they do.
Overture is a separate project so they can add stuff OSM doesn’t want like data generated from imagery that is not checked by people. That might make Overture better in areas where osm data is sparse. They can also restrict other things only import tags they like, or merge some tags that mean similar things to make it easier for data consumers.
Overture maps is a project by osm supporting companies to present their fake and/or low quality data to their shareholders. They can’t import it to osm because of the aformentiones reasons, so they created their own osm with blackjack and hookers.
Roads and landuse data is from osm so it it’s the same. Building contours based on osm and from some MS ai tool, similar to what you get in the RapId editor. At some places it’s good, in dense cities it’s unusable, and there are a lot of false positives, fake buildings on lakes and rivers, etc. Shops and POIs are from Facebook, a lot of them are at the wrong position or they not exist anymore, duplicates and jokes etc.
So as I see, it’s not usable by itself for anything. But it’s license is compatible to osm, so you can freely copy from there. I used it to check validity of osm notes. Facebook via this allowed us to copy data from any page, it was a grey area before. Here where I live a lot of shops don’t have a website only a FB page, and it wasn’t clear if you can copy phone numbers, email addresses from there. Now the same data is available in overture
It is not ‘by OSM’. The foundation is not involved at all, neither are members of the community.
This is big corpos who put together their data, and they have to include OSM because it is so great… which also means they have to open up this data due to our ODBL license!
And yes, we can thus absorb this data back into OSM, but it is not worth it
I wrote “by osm supporting companies”. The companies behind overture are also supporting osm, that’s what I wanted to write, it’s not necessarily a competitive project, simply data quality is different, but there is an overlap between supporting companies.
@infeeeee @[email protected] oh, glanced over that! Seems like I didn’t properly read your comment, sorry 'bout that
Eh, when you scroll down to “steering members”, it starts to look a lot less attractive.
From a quick look, looks like a nice project. If it proves to be more usable with higher accuracy than OSM and there’s an android apk for it, I’ll try it.
@unknowing8343 they’re doing fine…?
They have been publishing their data sets and stuff over time.
Anyone who thought the overture maps was going to create their own open street map clearly didn’t understand what the point of it was.
The idea of overture maps is that they are going to make it easier for developers to have standardized map data sets to work with. They’ll have much less detail in the actual open street map database but there’ll be much more standardized
@thibaultmol @unknowing8343 @openstreetmap
Maybe, but they also seem to be making intermediate standards to make it easier to wean themselves off OSM.
It’s not clear yet if that is actually a goal or a side effect.
