Hongkongers’ right to perform music in public is protected by a UN treaty enshrined in the city’s mini-constitution, an elderly man accused of playing a popular protest song in public without a per…
  • HubertManne@kbin.social
    53·
    11 months ago

    “Days later, Tam reversed his decision and decided that Li had a case to answer, saying it was the defence who must bear the burden of proof, not the prosecution.”

    Holy crap. You could be accused of anything and if you can’t prove its a lie then bye bye.

    • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
      345·
      11 months ago

      Guess what? We have that in the US too. It’s called civil asset forfeiture. Only your property is on trial and you have to prove it wasn’t used to commit a crime.

    • AnonTwo@kbin.social
      153·
      11 months ago

      I mean…incidentally everyone seems to be more concerned with poking the bear in this thread, than the actual topic being discussed…

    • Peaces@infosec.pubOPEnglish
      128·
      11 months ago

      World [email protected] removed an opinion peace critical of the CCP. Check the mod log filtering on my name. So now I post in lemmy.ml which seems to have a more mature culture of debate and discussion based on search of opinion posts and pinned politics post of the lemmy.ml owner.

      • 133arc585@lemmy.mlEnglish
        164·
        11 months ago

        I just looked at the mod log for that community and it doesn’t show anything removed with your name, nor anything related to the CPC or China at all. In fact, there’s almost nothing in the mod log for that community; it seems to remove hardly anything.

    • redtea@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      62·
      11 months ago

      That’s not quite what orientalism means. It’s not just ‘concerning China/Chinese’, even negatively. Orientalism would be saying that this protestor had a right to play his music because Chinese people are naturally musical. Or something like that.

      The case itself raises some interesting issues, such as the internal contradictions within liberal rights and the contradiction of relying on those rights in a place that sits between liberalism and anti-liberalism. The problems arising from the latter might lead to orientalist statements as the result (whatever the result) may be confused for something arising from ethnicity rather than politics.

      • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        911·
        11 months ago

        It should also raise the interesting issue of what it means for Hong Kong to have glory. Hong Kong’s long illustrious history is through its participation in China. This protest song is about Hong Kong separatism, which is based in the very short and terrible history of British domination and occupation which was predicated entirely on selling opium to China and then invading them when they outlawed the drug due to 40% of the population becoming addicted. These are far more interesting questions, in my opinion, than whether or not playing a song is a universal human right that cannot be truncated by a state in its attempts to manage the peaceful transition away from barbaric European domination.

      • astral_avocado@programming.devEnglish
        46·
        11 months ago

        Honestly I used it sarcastically, because IIRC one of the Lemmy devs/.ml admins used that as an excuse to censor news articles about the Uighur genocide

        • Blursty@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          14·
          11 months ago

          I think we can all agree that absurd conspiracy theories for idiots should be removed.

      • astral_avocado@programming.devEnglish
        45·
        11 months ago

        😂 you people are insane and just keep coming out of the woodwork acting like the words you’re saying are real and mean anything

        • freagle@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          68·
          11 months ago

          That’s literally what it looks like when you accuse China of fascism. You have no clue how foolish you look to 80% of the planet. The only people who agree with you look like you.