Live updates on the Israel-Hamas war.
  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    153·
    10 months ago

    This gets front page coverage with legacy media while the daily massacres of civilians in Gaza are minimized.

  • Altofaltception@lemmy.worldEnglish
    169·
    10 months ago

    Israel attacks the West Bank saying there is Hamas in the West Bank. Does this mean Israel will attack Israel because there is Hamas in Israel?

    • rivermonster@lemmy.worldEnglish
      316·
      10 months ago

      Are you asserting that Hamas is NOT in the west bank? It’s so popular there that Abbas is about to lose his seat to Hamas.

      • Altofaltception@lemmy.worldEnglish
        123·
        10 months ago

        Are you asserting that Hamas appeared in Israel from thin air to commit these crimes?

        Edit:

        But in seriousness, the reason Abbas is so unpopular is because Israel has refused to come to the bargaining table in good faith. The Palestinians view that Israel will not agree to terms peacefully.

        The Palestinian Authority have tried to negotiate with Israel, and while Oslo would have been a path to peace, the Israelis didn’t want it - you had Israelis massacre civilians in Hebron and then killing their own Prime Minister.

        When Camp David happened in 2000, the Israelis brought a proposal that was interpreted as a slap in the face for many Palestinians.

        • rivermonster@lemmy.worldEnglish
          413·
          10 months ago

          Hamas appeared to commit genocide, to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. You should read their founding document. I have. Here’s an atlantic piece that’s a decent critique of it as well:

          https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/hamas-covenant-israel-attack-war-genocide/675602/

          As for the Oslo Accords, Arafat walked away and refused everything, I’m not sure what myths you’ve been reading about it. Palestinians have rejected two-state 5 times, including Abbas in 2008.

          At one point Israel agreed to 80% of Palestine mandate to be the Palestinian Arabs and 20% the Palestinian Jews, but in reality they were sure they could just genocide or deport all the jews so even that wasn’t enough.

          • Altofaltception@lemmy.worldEnglish
            61·
            10 months ago

            As for Oslo, Arafat walked away and refused everything, I’m not sure what myths you’ve been reading about it. Palestinians have rejected two-state 5 times, including Abbas in 2008.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords

            Arafat walked away from Camp David, I’m not sure what myths you’ve been reading about it.

            Israelis hated the outcome of Oslo so much they killed their own PM.

      • maness300@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        Why do you think he’s asserting that?

        He’s clearly being satirical about Israel bombing anywhere they claim is Hamas.