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  • buy organic food with no preservatives
  • look ingredients
  • salt (inorganic preservative)

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    • poppy@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      That’s a big problem in makeup too! Companies want to put out “clean” and “natural” makeup but makeup isn’t typically used very quickly. Makeup with no preservatives going bad is common.

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    11 months ago

    “Organic” and “nonGMO” are two things that will actively make me avoid your product.

    • HSR🏴‍☠️@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      11 months ago

      One of my personal pet peeves, along with people who act like “clean energy” simply means no smog or visible particulate emissions.

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        11 months ago

        Personally I like charging up batteries in the Nether and bringing them back so the emissions don’t matter.

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        Nothing inherently, you can go ahead and eat apples from your apple tree.

        The main issue with “organic” foods is that the term is usually very badly regulated. Sometimes there is no difference between “organic” and “non organic”… besides price. Sometimes “organic” foods use very ecologically unfriendly techniques, or are grown/processed in countries where supply chains are not inspected anyway.

        Then there’s the fact that if something is different, it may not always be an environmental or health win. Growing your food in 30cm of water may be one organic and traditional way to avoid using pesticides (see: rice), but doing that with corn in the middle of Arizona would obviously be a terrible idea!

        Anyway, overall I don’t think organic foods are worse if you’re well off enough that the price is not an issue. But you shouldn’t feel personal guilt for buying whatever’s cheaper, because quite often the alternative does not justify the price anyway. Eating truly “organic” food unfortunately requires a lot more involvement than picking the green package at a national supermarket chain.

        • セリャスト@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I thought people in the US calling food “organic” was akin to our “Agriculture biologique” in France, which is heavily regulated at an european level. Is it nit the case?

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            The AB label is regulated yes, which is almost equivalent to the EU green leaf. Then there are various private labels. In the US it’s all up to private labels I believe.

            Anyone can put “bio” and a vaguely green packaging on anything though AFAIK. And I don’t think the average consumer is very knowledgeable about which label means what; I certainly am not.

            Then there’s the problem of fraud, and various issues with the way the EU defines “biological agriculture”, but I don’t really know much about either.

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          Sometimes there is no difference between “organic” and “non organic”

          Probably the most amusing example is strawberries: it’s essentially impossible to grow them without using non-organic pesticides (and there are such things as organic pesticides despite the near-universal but incorrect belief that “organic” means “no pesticides”) so the USDA allows them to be labelled “organic” if they’re grown with non-organic methods but then replanted and treated organically for a few days before being harvested and shipped to market.

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        11 months ago

        It’s a bullshit marketing term to appeal to pseudoscience and anti-intellectuals.

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        It’s a heavily abused and arbitrary marketing term that doesn’t actually indicate anything about what the food is made of or how it’s made or grown. It also doesn’t indicate anything about how healthy the food is or how good it tastes. At most it’s slightly better for the environment in some areas with some brands when used properly, but even then regulations are too lax and inconsistent worldwide for it to be a trustworthy label.

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        It’s code for “same shit but more expensive” As with all the labels, the intent is to shark people’s ignorance with meaningless buzzwords.

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          Organic foods can and usually do have pesticides, and those pesticides are just as harmful to you as the artificial ones. For instance, Rotenone was an organic pesticide used for decades that is strongly linked to parkinsons and has since been banned in North America.

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            Also quantity, most “organic” pesticides are significantly less effective and so it requires more applications of more product in order to get the same effect. Eating “organic” likely exposed you to more pesticides than the alternative.

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        Depends on where you live. As far as I know the term is not well protected in many countries, so it means next to nothing there.

        However, I live in the EU / Germany, where we have several organic farming standards that are all fairly strict. Generally, organic actually means organically produced food here, grown without artificial pesticides, chemical fertilizers, and so on.

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        Because I doubt there is anything we eat that’s non gmo, we have been influencing the genetics of plants around us for centuries.

        For example saying you only eat organic watermelon is fucking stupid, look at how it looked 2000 years ago and how it looks now.

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    At least they labeled salt correctly as “inorganic”. Doesn’t matter, but it’s at least correct.

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    11 months ago

    The wealth of misinformation and personal opinions in this thread is… it’s just classic.

    It’s incredible that as we are actively engaging in conversation on the internet we fail to use this modern marvel to better ourselves. Instead, we choose to bear our ignorance and influence impressionable minds.

    I mean, I know this a meme and maybe not the right place for fact checking, still…

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/organic-food/art-20043880

    https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/nutrition-basics/organic-food-fact-vs-perception

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/health-benefits-organic-food-farming-report/

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    11 months ago

    I know this is a joke but I highly recommend the app Yuka. You use it to scan food and beauty products and it shows you if they’re toxic. You’ll be astonished at how much is.

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      11 months ago

      Any thoughts on OpenFoodFacts? When you mentioned it, I searched and saw alternativeto.net said this was an open-source alternative. An app is available on F-Droid as well (That software I run is Libre is important for me personally)

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        Ooh neat. Idk much about it. I’m currently on an iPhone (regret). Yuka is pretty cool in that their pro plan is pay what you will, I will mention, though.